Happy Riches answer requested by anonymous
Logic is an interesting means of deduction. Really though, logic is merely a means of getting from one idea to another idea and reaching a conclusion. The trouble with logic is it is merely a methodology for thinking. Begin with the wrong premise and regardless of how thorough a person’s PhD thesis may appear, it will always arrive at the wrong conclusion, this is one of the reasons why there are so many questions left unanswered for further investigation. But we are talking about logic not writing a thesis for a doctorate.
I agree there is much fallacy written within theological discourse. Just as there is whenever men apply their imagination to creating any form of philosophy rather than attending to the facts of a matter.
For instance, let us assume the Universe is four billion years old. Now we will call that a fact. From there on whatever we say has to be correct. The logic will hold up.
Let us assume that the atmosphere is heating up as a consequence of humans breathing out too much carbon dioxide. Forget about the fact the that deserts will begin to disappear because there will be more plant life. For our method for proving that breathing produces carbon dioxide will be logically correct, therefore human population reduction is required.
As far as the Bible is concerned, let us assume that we do not understand it, and accept that we just might be morons that possess the IQ of a 12 year old, if we do not. We know that can always throw the Bible in the bin, or we can read it and say it is fallacious. However, we can also seek the premise that the thesis of the Bible is founded upon.
The underlying thesis within the Bible is quite simple really. You were born to die: what are you going to do to overcome death?
Now you may consider that an illogical fallacy. A scientifically minded person might do some research into what one’s parents’ grandparents’ grandparents might have to say about this idea of death. Since there is only a tombstone acknowledging that they once existed, one could say that this is pure nonsense and come up with some other idea. Or, one could say death is really a universal phenomenon after all and conclude that we are born to die.
One might decide to read a book that is presented to them which supposedly has the answers to the reason why people are born to die. But since someone else said it was nonsense, why bother?
The Bible, which many delight in claiming has logical fallacies, says that after death comes judgment, and the reason people die is because they violate the personal rights of other people when they bear false witness, steal, hate, and commit sexual violations—also when they refuse to acknowledge the source of life, the Creator.Since I am told that the premise of God existing is an illogical fallacy, because God does not exist, am I to believe the person(s) who tell me this?
What a dilemma I am faced with. Who shall I believe? Another loser like myself who is born to die? Or shall I take note of the witness of millions of people throughout the ages, who have testified that God lives and there is a hope for us all.?
The hope to which millions of people attest is found in the Bible. Even though the Bible is full of paradoxes, it is written to see whether people genuinely desire to know the truth or not. The person of Whom the Bible testifies is the Savior of the world. He says that throwing pearls before swine is a waste of time and so is giving dogs what is holy, therefore we read:
- At that time Jesus declared, “I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes; yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will. (Matthew 11:25–26)
What some people think is trash, often really is treasure. For instance, an engineer wrote to me just yesterday and informed me that he was once a Catholic and had learned about Jesus, but he has moved on from that now. He believes in aliens from outer space and greys, even though he has never seen one. Whereas, I have met the resurrected Lord Jesus Christ, seen Lucifer and many other creatures that are not of biological origin, including angels and demons of different descriptions and sizes.
The Bible states that the Creation is subjected to futility by the Lord God until the revealing of the Sons of God (Romans 8:20), who are people that have chosen to do the will of God and have been empowered by the Holy Spirit.
- For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning in travail together until now; and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. (Romans 8:20-23)
Now you can disagree with that. You are quite free to do so. Those of us who have actually come to know Lord Jesus Christ understand that there is more to life other than being born only to die as a biological being.
Life is full of paradoxes (illogical fallacies). The Bible merely records many of them.
Working Out A Philosophy For Life Is Pointless If The Truth Is Cast Aside
Happy Riches answer requested by anonymous
Logic is an interesting means of deduction. Really though, logic is merely a means of getting from one idea to another idea and reaching a conclusion. The trouble with logic is it is merely a methodology for thinking. Begin with the wrong premise and regardless of how thorough a person’s PhD thesis may appear, it will always arrive at the wrong conclusion, this is one of the reasons why there are so many questions left unanswered for further investigation. But we are talking about logic not writing a thesis for a doctorate.
I agree there is much fallacy written within theological discourse. Just as there is whenever men apply their imagination to creating any form of philosophy rather than attending to the facts of a matter.
For instance, let us assume the Universe is four billion years old. Now we will call that a fact. From there on whatever we say has to be correct. The logic will hold up.
Let us assume that the atmosphere is heating up as a consequence of humans breathing out too much carbon dioxide. Forget about the fact the that deserts will begin to disappear because there will be more plant life. For our method for proving that breathing produces carbon dioxide will be logically correct, therefore human population reduction is required.
As far as the Bible is concerned, let us assume that we do not understand it, and accept that we just might be morons that possess the IQ of a 12 year old, if we do not. We know that can always throw the Bible in the bin, or we can read it and say it is fallacious. However, we can also seek the premise that the thesis of the Bible is founded upon.
The underlying thesis within the Bible is quite simple really. You were born to die: what are you going to do to overcome death?
Now you may consider that an illogical fallacy. A scientifically minded person might do some research into what one’s parents’ grandparents’ grandparents might have to say about this idea of death. Since there is only a tombstone acknowledging that they once existed, one could say that this is pure nonsense and come up with some other idea. Or, one could say death is really a universal phenomenon after all and conclude that we are born to die.
One might decide to read a book that is presented to them which supposedly has the answers to the reason why people are born to die. But since someone else said it was nonsense, why bother?
The Bible, which many delight in claiming has logical fallacies, says that after death comes judgment, and the reason people die is because they violate the personal rights of other people when they bear false witness, steal, hate, and commit sexual violations—also when they refuse to acknowledge the source of life, the Creator.Since I am told that the premise of God existing is an illogical fallacy, because God does not exist, am I to believe the person(s) who tell me this?
What a dilemma I am faced with. Who shall I believe? Another loser like myself who is born to die? Or shall I take note of the witness of millions of people throughout the ages, who have testified that God lives and there is a hope for us all.?
The hope to which millions of people attest is found in the Bible. Even though the Bible is full of paradoxes, it is written to see whether people genuinely desire to know the truth or not. The person of Whom the Bible testifies is the Savior of the world. He says that throwing pearls before swine is a waste of time and so is giving dogs what is holy, therefore we read:
- At that time Jesus declared, “I thank thee, Father, Lord of heaven and earth, that thou hast hidden these things from the wise and understanding and revealed them to babes; yea, Father, for such was thy gracious will. (Matthew 11:25–26)
The Bible states that the Creation is subjected to futility by the Lord God until the revealing of the Sons of God (Romans 8:20), who are people that have chosen to do the will of God and have been empowered by the Holy Spirit.
- For the creation was subjected to futility, not of its own will but by the will of him who subjected it in hope; because the creation itself will be set free from its bondage to decay and obtain the glorious liberty of the children of God. We know that the whole creation has been groaning in travail together until now; and not only the creation, but we ourselves, who have the first fruits of the Spirit, groan inwardly as we wait for adoption as sons, the redemption of our bodies. (Romans 8:20-23)
Life is full of paradoxes (illogical fallacies). The Bible merely records many of them.
Working Out A Philosophy For Life Is Pointless If The Truth Is Cast Aside
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